Hold da kæft, den er lige til Finansiel Kriminalitet den her......
På aktiedebatsiden www.aktiechat.dk hvor jeg har opereret mens jeg så mig selv som aktionær i det svenske selskab CISL Gruppen AB ( Nu omdøbt til Alstrado AB )som ejer(de) en aktiepost ( ca 30 % )i et selskab som hedder La Jolla Gaming i Costa Rica som udvikler spilplatforme/systemer til bl.a. kasinobrancen, læser jeg i dag dette om hvordan vi er blevet tørret godt og grundigt i røven hele bundtet.
Da denne gruppe jeg har det fra er " låst ", så kopierer jeg lige denne mail som ophavsmanden Fimo har modtaget fra en tidligere ansat i LJG.
For god ordens skyld, så har jeg heldigvis "kun" 150.000 aktier i foretagenet
Hi,
I think that the lack of new topics is because no news has been released for a long time and i think we all could agree that something is NOT right
with our CISL investment !
Today i received this email from a Franco Quiros / co-founder of La Jolla Gaming, one of its main shareholders, and the person in charge of the software
development and technical side of the company in Costa Rica.
And i was really surpriced about the content of his mail.....
Pls read this mail from him and let us see if we can do anything with this information / CISL/LJG FRAUD !
My name is Franco Quiros; I’m co-founder of La Jolla Gaming, one of
its main shareholders, and the person in charge of the software
development and technical side of the company in Costa Rica.
La Jolla Gaming was created in the United States, a Delaware company,
with a sale office in Las Vegas, but all technical operations were in
Costa Rica. The company in Costa Rica was closed in October 2008, 2
years ago.
When the company was closed, we owed 6 months of salaries to 42 former
employees, 6 months of office rent, 1 year of salary income taxes
retentions, 6 months of social security tax retentions, and several
debts with government, banks, and providers.
The persons in charge of the company were Johnny Gonzalez (the general
manager), and me (the technical manager). The person responsible for
the management decisions in Costa Rica was Johnny Gonzalez. He ran
away to the States one month before I was forced to close the company.
And since October 2008, although all the lawsuits are against the
both, I am facing alone all of the problems without any kind of
support from Johnny Gonzalez.
In order to reduce the threat of future labor lawsuits, I had to
distribute all the assets of the company among the former employees as
a partial compensation of our debts.
In my case, I tried to keep alive the company the last months before
the closure, so I asked creditors for $120,000. It is money that La
Jolla Gaming owes me.
After October 2008, I've been the target of 4 criminal lawsuits for
social security tax retentions. Those were resolved by paying around
$45,000. Right now I am facing the threat of 8 years of jail for a
criminal lawsuit for around $80,000.00 of tax retentions from
employee’s salaries. At the same time, I am facing 17 civil law suits.
The total debts in Costa Rica are around 1,1 Million dollars.
The company received around $8,000,000 (eight million of dollars in
investment). I guess we received in Costa Rica, less than 5 Million,
and with that money we built the software that later was certified in
Las Vegas. The cause of the failure of La Jolla was not technical; it
was in the management side. In April 2009, I wrote a statement of
facts about how a company that received 8M was closed; you could read
it in the attachment. Did any of you, at some time receive a financial
report from the company managers? I asked for that report several
times, but I received nothing.
Last December 2009 Doug communicated a non audited financial report,
just to me, which didn't reflect the Costa Rican debt.
The company in CR exists just in papers because is facing a lot of
lawsuits, there are no office, no employees, and there are no assets.
In March 2009, Graeme Swain and Johnny Gonzalez were fired for obvious
reasons, but Graeme was hired as consultant some months later. Doug
Sanderson was appointed as CEO of the company in the US, and the board
of directors was commanded by Doug Sanderson and Tony Vitti.
In August 2009, Doug sells to PMWT (Pari Mutuel Wagering Technologies)
the Off Track Betting Racing software for $250,000.00, and some
business was made with David Leppo. At the end in 2009 the company
received around $280,000.00. Of that money, $60,000 was wired to Costa
Rica to resolve my most urgent criminal lawsuits. Doug visited Costa
Rica in April 2009, he made the commitment to former employees that
the main priority before a new launch of the company was to resolve my
threat to go to jail and my civil law suits. That commitment was done
in the presence of former employees and Tony Vitti was witness of
honor. Doug betrayed most of that commitment, and still I have the
menace of jail for $80,000 of tax retentions, as I said before I am
facing 17 civil law suits and $120,000 personal debts.
Of that $280,000.00, we received in Costa Rica less than $60,000,
$45,000 to resolve criminal lawsuits, the rest to pay the operation
with David Leppo and the work for the demos. How was the rest of the
money used? The answer from Doug is the silence. On May 2010 Tony
Vitti resigned from the Board of Directors.
After 2 years and $280,000 there is nothing, there are no money, there
are no new projects, and there is no web site.
Any new project, would need my collaboration, because only myself
could gather all the knowledge, hire former employees, train new ones,
and to launch a new operation. I am in a desperate situation, but I
will not work again with people as Doug Sanderson and Graeme Swain,
who have managed the company with a full lack of transparency.
WHY I WROTE THIS LETTER?
a) I know most of you don't know the truth. All of you invested a lot
of money, and you have the right to know the truth.
b) I need that you, as American citizens or Swedish investors, start a
legal proceeding against Doug Sanderson, Graeme Swain or Tony Vitti. I
need some kind of evidence that the company in Costa Rica was
mismanaged in the US, so I could reduce my responsibility with the
lawsuits in Costa Rica.
c) Doug Sanderson has a copy of the software code, and I do too. But
any possibility of a return of the investment has to be done through
me. Doug has the code, but not the knowledge nor the logistic for a
development of the code, and its sale. I have founded a new software
company in Costa Rica, my partners are former employees of La Jolla in
Costa Rica, and we have the resources needed to develop the software.
There might be a possibility to rescue the investment.
I attached the contact information of the all the investors, please
contact each other and coordinate efforts. Today I already sent this
letter to all the investors by normal mail service..
Please, you need to ask for explanations to Doug Sanderson, Graeme
Swain , Tony Vitti and Johnnu Gonzalez, and I include here their
contact information:
DOUG SANDERSON (sandod@aol.com)
8109 Dark Hollow Place
Las Vegas, Nevada 89117
Phone: 702-4966060
GRAEME SWAIN (graeme@lockwooddev.com)
Lockwood Development
13625 California Street
Suite 110
Omaha, NE 68154
Work phone: 402.933.3663
Cell Phone: 858-220-2582
ANTONY VITTI (avittilaw@yahoo.com)
Phone: 949-3752536
JOHNNY GONZALEZ (johnny.gonzalez65@gmail.com)
Phone: 702-8243374
I have and could send you all the documentation that supports each
fact that I mentioned in this letter or in the attachment.
Please contact me if you need a clarification or more information
Franco Quiros (fquiros@gmail.com)
Cel: +506-87128720
************************************************************************************
And here is the text from his attached file....
Why La Jolla Gaming went to Bankruptcy?
November 8th, 2010
I wrote this document in February 2009. It is an explanation about why the company bankrupts in Costa Rica.
Since Feb 2009 I resolved 5 penal law suit for social security tax retentions, but still I am facing a penal law suits for income tax retentions for around $80,000.00, and 17 civil law suits.
-------
February 22nd, 2009
Next March 6th I have to offer some way to pay the retention taxes to the Caja´s representative in a conciliation meeting. If I can’t offer them a way to pay, a quick lawsuit will start and in 2 or 3 months this might send me to jail. This trial is for the retentions of May 2008 and July 2008. Very soon there would be another one for the months from March 2008 to November 2008. Another criminal law suit is on the way, for the income taxes retentions from the Ministerio de Hacienda, from November 2007 to November 2008. There is around $50K for the Caja´s law suits and $80K for the Ministerio de Hacienda, for a total of $130K.
The Caja and Ministerio de Hacienda are the government institutions that will sue me. Caja for the retention of social security taxes, Ministerio de Hacienda for the retention of income taxes.
It is not only my problem: Johnny Gonzalez can't be tried in absentia, but the judge might ask Interpol to claim his presence in Costa Rica.
The history of La Jolla in Costa Rica will take us back 8 years, 4.5 years as InetSoftware, 3.5 years as La Jolla. When we closed Inet, we didn't fire the employees to re-hired them back in La Jolla, so we didn't have to pay the severance. We just moved all the employees from Inet to La Jolla. The Caja's representative accepted this movement only if La Jolla’s owners accepted the responsibility ("responsabilidad solidaria") over the employee’s severances and all the employer obligations. From the Caja's perspective, the company had a life of 8 years.
From my perspective, the causes of LJ CR bankruptcy started with Inet.
When we made La Jolla (formerly InetSoftware), my role was to deal with the technology side of building the software, Graeme’s role was raising money and general management, and Johnny's role was the Costa Rica office management. The history of the company confirms these implicit agreements. I made my part, I made a great team, and the software is of world class, and it is even still working today, although it is not being supported. It is not fair that I have to face the consequences of bad management. The morally responsible for the felony in Costa Rica are Johnny (the manager in CR) and Graeme who managed the money in the States.
I don't know the total amount of money La Jolla/Inet received from investors; although I am one of the main shareholders, I NEVER received a single financial statement from US. Just based in monthly expenses in CR, my estimation is that we received $4M in CR. In the States, I guess we received $8M total investment. It is difficult to believe that with this amount of money it is not possible to create a very competitive company. Can you tell me please how much investment money we received? How much money came to Costa Rica? Can you tell me how the money was spent in the States?
Before July 2005, I received a small salary. After that date my salary was $5.5K by month. I would like to know Graeme's and Johnny's salary, which has to be complete with car and house expenses, for example.
I heard from Graeme and Johnny that we went to bankruptcy because Thunderbird didn't helped out. This sentence is not true. We went to bankruptcy because we got to a very risky position after the company was so badly managed:
1. We hired people with big salaries that did almost nothing (Phillip Verril, William McMaster, Jeff Hoffman, etc); they were very badly supervised and managed.
2. We paid big salaries for years to not essential people but who were very good friends of the owners.
3. The company paid luxury cars and luxury houses for the enjoyment of the owners (not me).
4. We mismanaged never ending projects (i.e. Races, Betleroys).
5. We managed big projects that never saw the light (Sportsbook, Running Jacks, Marketing, Server Based Gaming).
6. We hired people to work in projects that never started (Jermaine Morgan, Guillermo Calderon, and all the staff for the Sycuan project - 5 or 6 persons.).
7. We paid big consulting fees for projects without results (Rich Leeman, Kevin McDonald, etc.).
8. Johnny rejected the idea to reduce costs by receiving money in Panama for the payment of big salaries, something very usual in Costa Rica and legal.
9. One of our former employees, in charge of administrative activities, stole our money for years, paying her personal expenses with La Jolla’s money. In 8 years, we made just one incomplete internal audit (in July 2008), so it was very easy for that girl to steal our money.
10. Graeme and Johnny never heard my recommendations to diversify our software products so the company wouldn't depend only on the gaming industry. We had the opportunity to use our platform for another kind of projects. We put all the eggs in the one basket.
This is just an incomplete list of mismanagement.
InetSoftware, after 4.5 years of selling a software system that is still working today in various sportsbooks in CR, never returned a dime to their initial investors, a collection of Graeme’s friends and relatives. Today, these guys are small shareholders of La Jolla, and would probably never receive a dime back.
I made management mistakes as well, mainly mistakes of omission, but at some point during these 8 years I got tired of fighting with my partners and of never being considered for a strategic or financial decision. I am paying the cost of my silence. But my main responsibility was technology, and again, I fulfilled my obligation.
If we want to rescue the company in the States, we have to admit these errors before we start any new project.
The accounting errors also started from the beginning:
1. For 3 years, from 2000 to 2003 we didn't have any accounting procedures.
2. We didn't present tax declarations and there are no financial statements from these 3 years.
3. For 8 years Johnny never gave an invoice as support for his personal expenses paid by the company.
4. For 8 years we had 2 or 3 people working as illegal immigrant workers, and these workers never paid taxes. Neither of them had immigrant working permissions, although they received the money in Costa Rica.
5. When in last August an auditor from Caja audited all our records since 2000, the potential fine for bad accounting and tax evasion was around $1M (yes, 1 million dollars!). Luckily, we closed the company and the process was stopped (I hope).
6. We were audited for the income taxes as well, just for 2006. The auditors accounted as income all the money we gave to somebody with had no receipt to support it: all the foreign employees’ salaries, the payme
På aktiedebatsiden www.aktiechat.dk hvor jeg har opereret mens jeg så mig selv som aktionær i det svenske selskab CISL Gruppen AB ( Nu omdøbt til Alstrado AB )som ejer(de) en aktiepost ( ca 30 % )i et selskab som hedder La Jolla Gaming i Costa Rica som udvikler spilplatforme/systemer til bl.a. kasinobrancen, læser jeg i dag dette om hvordan vi er blevet tørret godt og grundigt i røven hele bundtet.
Da denne gruppe jeg har det fra er " låst ", så kopierer jeg lige denne mail som ophavsmanden Fimo har modtaget fra en tidligere ansat i LJG.
For god ordens skyld, så har jeg heldigvis "kun" 150.000 aktier i foretagenet
Hi,
I think that the lack of new topics is because no news has been released for a long time and i think we all could agree that something is NOT right
with our CISL investment !
Today i received this email from a Franco Quiros / co-founder of La Jolla Gaming, one of its main shareholders, and the person in charge of the software
development and technical side of the company in Costa Rica.
And i was really surpriced about the content of his mail.....
Pls read this mail from him and let us see if we can do anything with this information / CISL/LJG FRAUD !
My name is Franco Quiros; I’m co-founder of La Jolla Gaming, one of
its main shareholders, and the person in charge of the software
development and technical side of the company in Costa Rica.
La Jolla Gaming was created in the United States, a Delaware company,
with a sale office in Las Vegas, but all technical operations were in
Costa Rica. The company in Costa Rica was closed in October 2008, 2
years ago.
When the company was closed, we owed 6 months of salaries to 42 former
employees, 6 months of office rent, 1 year of salary income taxes
retentions, 6 months of social security tax retentions, and several
debts with government, banks, and providers.
The persons in charge of the company were Johnny Gonzalez (the general
manager), and me (the technical manager). The person responsible for
the management decisions in Costa Rica was Johnny Gonzalez. He ran
away to the States one month before I was forced to close the company.
And since October 2008, although all the lawsuits are against the
both, I am facing alone all of the problems without any kind of
support from Johnny Gonzalez.
In order to reduce the threat of future labor lawsuits, I had to
distribute all the assets of the company among the former employees as
a partial compensation of our debts.
In my case, I tried to keep alive the company the last months before
the closure, so I asked creditors for $120,000. It is money that La
Jolla Gaming owes me.
After October 2008, I've been the target of 4 criminal lawsuits for
social security tax retentions. Those were resolved by paying around
$45,000. Right now I am facing the threat of 8 years of jail for a
criminal lawsuit for around $80,000.00 of tax retentions from
employee’s salaries. At the same time, I am facing 17 civil law suits.
The total debts in Costa Rica are around 1,1 Million dollars.
The company received around $8,000,000 (eight million of dollars in
investment). I guess we received in Costa Rica, less than 5 Million,
and with that money we built the software that later was certified in
Las Vegas. The cause of the failure of La Jolla was not technical; it
was in the management side. In April 2009, I wrote a statement of
facts about how a company that received 8M was closed; you could read
it in the attachment. Did any of you, at some time receive a financial
report from the company managers? I asked for that report several
times, but I received nothing.
Last December 2009 Doug communicated a non audited financial report,
just to me, which didn't reflect the Costa Rican debt.
The company in CR exists just in papers because is facing a lot of
lawsuits, there are no office, no employees, and there are no assets.
In March 2009, Graeme Swain and Johnny Gonzalez were fired for obvious
reasons, but Graeme was hired as consultant some months later. Doug
Sanderson was appointed as CEO of the company in the US, and the board
of directors was commanded by Doug Sanderson and Tony Vitti.
In August 2009, Doug sells to PMWT (Pari Mutuel Wagering Technologies)
the Off Track Betting Racing software for $250,000.00, and some
business was made with David Leppo. At the end in 2009 the company
received around $280,000.00. Of that money, $60,000 was wired to Costa
Rica to resolve my most urgent criminal lawsuits. Doug visited Costa
Rica in April 2009, he made the commitment to former employees that
the main priority before a new launch of the company was to resolve my
threat to go to jail and my civil law suits. That commitment was done
in the presence of former employees and Tony Vitti was witness of
honor. Doug betrayed most of that commitment, and still I have the
menace of jail for $80,000 of tax retentions, as I said before I am
facing 17 civil law suits and $120,000 personal debts.
Of that $280,000.00, we received in Costa Rica less than $60,000,
$45,000 to resolve criminal lawsuits, the rest to pay the operation
with David Leppo and the work for the demos. How was the rest of the
money used? The answer from Doug is the silence. On May 2010 Tony
Vitti resigned from the Board of Directors.
After 2 years and $280,000 there is nothing, there are no money, there
are no new projects, and there is no web site.
Any new project, would need my collaboration, because only myself
could gather all the knowledge, hire former employees, train new ones,
and to launch a new operation. I am in a desperate situation, but I
will not work again with people as Doug Sanderson and Graeme Swain,
who have managed the company with a full lack of transparency.
WHY I WROTE THIS LETTER?
a) I know most of you don't know the truth. All of you invested a lot
of money, and you have the right to know the truth.
b) I need that you, as American citizens or Swedish investors, start a
legal proceeding against Doug Sanderson, Graeme Swain or Tony Vitti. I
need some kind of evidence that the company in Costa Rica was
mismanaged in the US, so I could reduce my responsibility with the
lawsuits in Costa Rica.
c) Doug Sanderson has a copy of the software code, and I do too. But
any possibility of a return of the investment has to be done through
me. Doug has the code, but not the knowledge nor the logistic for a
development of the code, and its sale. I have founded a new software
company in Costa Rica, my partners are former employees of La Jolla in
Costa Rica, and we have the resources needed to develop the software.
There might be a possibility to rescue the investment.
I attached the contact information of the all the investors, please
contact each other and coordinate efforts. Today I already sent this
letter to all the investors by normal mail service..
Please, you need to ask for explanations to Doug Sanderson, Graeme
Swain , Tony Vitti and Johnnu Gonzalez, and I include here their
contact information:
DOUG SANDERSON (sandod@aol.com)
8109 Dark Hollow Place
Las Vegas, Nevada 89117
Phone: 702-4966060
GRAEME SWAIN (graeme@lockwooddev.com)
Lockwood Development
13625 California Street
Suite 110
Omaha, NE 68154
Work phone: 402.933.3663
Cell Phone: 858-220-2582
ANTONY VITTI (avittilaw@yahoo.com)
Phone: 949-3752536
JOHNNY GONZALEZ (johnny.gonzalez65@gmail.com)
Phone: 702-8243374
I have and could send you all the documentation that supports each
fact that I mentioned in this letter or in the attachment.
Please contact me if you need a clarification or more information
Franco Quiros (fquiros@gmail.com)
Cel: +506-87128720
************************************************************************************
And here is the text from his attached file....
Why La Jolla Gaming went to Bankruptcy?
November 8th, 2010
I wrote this document in February 2009. It is an explanation about why the company bankrupts in Costa Rica.
Since Feb 2009 I resolved 5 penal law suit for social security tax retentions, but still I am facing a penal law suits for income tax retentions for around $80,000.00, and 17 civil law suits.
-------
February 22nd, 2009
Next March 6th I have to offer some way to pay the retention taxes to the Caja´s representative in a conciliation meeting. If I can’t offer them a way to pay, a quick lawsuit will start and in 2 or 3 months this might send me to jail. This trial is for the retentions of May 2008 and July 2008. Very soon there would be another one for the months from March 2008 to November 2008. Another criminal law suit is on the way, for the income taxes retentions from the Ministerio de Hacienda, from November 2007 to November 2008. There is around $50K for the Caja´s law suits and $80K for the Ministerio de Hacienda, for a total of $130K.
The Caja and Ministerio de Hacienda are the government institutions that will sue me. Caja for the retention of social security taxes, Ministerio de Hacienda for the retention of income taxes.
It is not only my problem: Johnny Gonzalez can't be tried in absentia, but the judge might ask Interpol to claim his presence in Costa Rica.
The history of La Jolla in Costa Rica will take us back 8 years, 4.5 years as InetSoftware, 3.5 years as La Jolla. When we closed Inet, we didn't fire the employees to re-hired them back in La Jolla, so we didn't have to pay the severance. We just moved all the employees from Inet to La Jolla. The Caja's representative accepted this movement only if La Jolla’s owners accepted the responsibility ("responsabilidad solidaria") over the employee’s severances and all the employer obligations. From the Caja's perspective, the company had a life of 8 years.
From my perspective, the causes of LJ CR bankruptcy started with Inet.
When we made La Jolla (formerly InetSoftware), my role was to deal with the technology side of building the software, Graeme’s role was raising money and general management, and Johnny's role was the Costa Rica office management. The history of the company confirms these implicit agreements. I made my part, I made a great team, and the software is of world class, and it is even still working today, although it is not being supported. It is not fair that I have to face the consequences of bad management. The morally responsible for the felony in Costa Rica are Johnny (the manager in CR) and Graeme who managed the money in the States.
I don't know the total amount of money La Jolla/Inet received from investors; although I am one of the main shareholders, I NEVER received a single financial statement from US. Just based in monthly expenses in CR, my estimation is that we received $4M in CR. In the States, I guess we received $8M total investment. It is difficult to believe that with this amount of money it is not possible to create a very competitive company. Can you tell me please how much investment money we received? How much money came to Costa Rica? Can you tell me how the money was spent in the States?
Before July 2005, I received a small salary. After that date my salary was $5.5K by month. I would like to know Graeme's and Johnny's salary, which has to be complete with car and house expenses, for example.
I heard from Graeme and Johnny that we went to bankruptcy because Thunderbird didn't helped out. This sentence is not true. We went to bankruptcy because we got to a very risky position after the company was so badly managed:
1. We hired people with big salaries that did almost nothing (Phillip Verril, William McMaster, Jeff Hoffman, etc); they were very badly supervised and managed.
2. We paid big salaries for years to not essential people but who were very good friends of the owners.
3. The company paid luxury cars and luxury houses for the enjoyment of the owners (not me).
4. We mismanaged never ending projects (i.e. Races, Betleroys).
5. We managed big projects that never saw the light (Sportsbook, Running Jacks, Marketing, Server Based Gaming).
6. We hired people to work in projects that never started (Jermaine Morgan, Guillermo Calderon, and all the staff for the Sycuan project - 5 or 6 persons.).
7. We paid big consulting fees for projects without results (Rich Leeman, Kevin McDonald, etc.).
8. Johnny rejected the idea to reduce costs by receiving money in Panama for the payment of big salaries, something very usual in Costa Rica and legal.
9. One of our former employees, in charge of administrative activities, stole our money for years, paying her personal expenses with La Jolla’s money. In 8 years, we made just one incomplete internal audit (in July 2008), so it was very easy for that girl to steal our money.
10. Graeme and Johnny never heard my recommendations to diversify our software products so the company wouldn't depend only on the gaming industry. We had the opportunity to use our platform for another kind of projects. We put all the eggs in the one basket.
This is just an incomplete list of mismanagement.
InetSoftware, after 4.5 years of selling a software system that is still working today in various sportsbooks in CR, never returned a dime to their initial investors, a collection of Graeme’s friends and relatives. Today, these guys are small shareholders of La Jolla, and would probably never receive a dime back.
I made management mistakes as well, mainly mistakes of omission, but at some point during these 8 years I got tired of fighting with my partners and of never being considered for a strategic or financial decision. I am paying the cost of my silence. But my main responsibility was technology, and again, I fulfilled my obligation.
If we want to rescue the company in the States, we have to admit these errors before we start any new project.
The accounting errors also started from the beginning:
1. For 3 years, from 2000 to 2003 we didn't have any accounting procedures.
2. We didn't present tax declarations and there are no financial statements from these 3 years.
3. For 8 years Johnny never gave an invoice as support for his personal expenses paid by the company.
4. For 8 years we had 2 or 3 people working as illegal immigrant workers, and these workers never paid taxes. Neither of them had immigrant working permissions, although they received the money in Costa Rica.
5. When in last August an auditor from Caja audited all our records since 2000, the potential fine for bad accounting and tax evasion was around $1M (yes, 1 million dollars!). Luckily, we closed the company and the process was stopped (I hope).
6. We were audited for the income taxes as well, just for 2006. The auditors accounted as income all the money we gave to somebody with had no receipt to support it: all the foreign employees’ salaries, the payme
Jeg har sidder lidt her i formiddag og grublet over hvad fa'en jeg skulle gøre med den viden jeg pludselig havde adgang til, og jeg besluttede mig for at rette henvendelse til den journalist som på den svenske avis Affardsvarden skrev mange artikler om CISL / LJG samt EUROVIP for 2 til 3 år siden.
Jeg sendte en kopi af mit startindlæg og har også fået et svar tilbage fra hende hvori hun meget kort skriver " Meeeget interessant "
Nu håber jeg dette kan være starten til at der bliver ryddet godt og grundigt op i den banditbande i Umeå i Sverige.........
God weekend
Kim
Jeg sendte en kopi af mit startindlæg og har også fået et svar tilbage fra hende hvori hun meget kort skriver " Meeeget interessant "
Nu håber jeg dette kan være starten til at der bliver ryddet godt og grundigt op i den banditbande i Umeå i Sverige.........
God weekend
Kim
12/11 2010 16:17 collersteen 0
35911 Var det ikke også en af de aktier der blev hypet vildt på den anden kanal.... og bl.a. havde den navnkundige boriz64 som aktionær? Overrasket er man ikke i hvert fald.
12/11 2010 17:15 Kim 035915 Jo det er vist rigtigt nok Coller.
Men for det ikke skal være løgn, så prøvede jeg faktisk også at tjene på den, dog for senere at midste det igen
Kim
Men for det ikke skal være løgn, så prøvede jeg faktisk også at tjene på den, dog for senere at midste det igen
Kim
Apropos det at blive taget i røven.....
Som sikkert flere af jer ved, så kvajede jeg mig jo desværre også med min investering i gyllegesjæften Bioscan.......
Blev via en MMS erindret om at jeg faktisk havde et fanbillede liggende på computeren fra dengang jeg troede at gylle skulle blive til guld......
Se vedhæftede fil
Kim
Som sikkert flere af jer ved, så kvajede jeg mig jo desværre også med min investering i gyllegesjæften Bioscan.......
Blev via en MMS erindret om at jeg faktisk havde et fanbillede liggende på computeren fra dengang jeg troede at gylle skulle blive til guld......
Se vedhæftede fil
Kim
14/11 2010 13:49 Kim 035952 Gu er den sjov aka, men jeg er sikker på at der vil komme noget som er meget sjovere
Mit første barnebarn har faktisk en bamse som passer denne famøse T-shirt, og bærer den den dag i dag ( måske til skræk og advarsel imod tvivlsomme investeringer ..... )
Kim
Mit første barnebarn har faktisk en bamse som passer denne famøse T-shirt, og bærer den den dag i dag ( måske til skræk og advarsel imod tvivlsomme investeringer ..... )
Kim
14/11 2010 13:51 Kim 035953 PS:
Hvis nogen skulle være interesseret, så her jeg vist et par stykker liggende stadigvæk, hehe
Hvis nogen skulle være interesseret, så her jeg vist et par stykker liggende stadigvæk, hehe
Hej kim.
Ja, uha da da da. Det eventyr lugtede fælt. Jeg tjente en lille slat penge på få handler. Min mentor havde et pænt afkast timet med TA under den store hyppe hyp aktion, der gik helt amok.
Tro giver vinger - viden kan give smæk.
Ja, uha da da da. Det eventyr lugtede fælt. Jeg tjente en lille slat penge på få handler. Min mentor havde et pænt afkast timet med TA under den store hyppe hyp aktion, der gik helt amok.
Tro giver vinger - viden kan give smæk.
